Archive for the ‘CoPs in Math’ Category

Do Mathematicians really need/ want/ use/ accept (Mathematical) Software?

Wednesday, July 30th, 2008

Hypotheses: Mathematical Software needs MoC (well at least that was what I was going to show)

Evidence: I am referring to software that helps finding a proof, that supports the iterative process of adding proving steps and deleting them again, that is the tedious process of slowly approaching the proof in a notation one is satisfied with. I am not referring to theorem provers that proof lemma’s for us and fill in correct steps automatically nor to tools that help digitalizing already known or written proofs. The continuous revision and multiple revision require a permanent adaptation of previous written proofs steps, thus, respective software with management of change support is valuable for mathematicians.

Another feature: The tedious proving process is very different to the final proof or the later presentation of the process to other (in publications, books, slides, and even in discussions with other mathematicians). Thus, for reconstructing the actual proving process, the software can offer recording functionalities. This could be used by others (in particular students) to better understand the methodology of finding a proof and the heuristics used to require the proof (well, we can’t look in the mathematicians head; some iterations made not be entered but rather take place in the human mind or using pen and paper).

Revision/ Concerns: However, do mathematicians really want such a tool? It would be tedious to enter notations (and particularly to decide on a notation, thus, slowing down the actually thinking) and most likely mathematicians rather stick to their heads and paper. So we should rather ask: When do mathematicians use software? Where can software potentially ease up their life? Is this maybe rather after the finding of a proof; when it comes to the point the mathematicians want to share it with others, publish it; verify it (automatically)? So then we would not need software that supports the tedious, iterative phase of finding proofs … but rather software that supports the publication process (still then change management is useful, since notations/ text evolve - also when writing down an already completed proof) — and the learning experience (since young mathematicians need to learn how to proof).

So does learning software in mathematics make sense? Can it potentially ease up the learning experience? What can software do better/ more efficient/ and less costly then human specialists?

A final though: Mathematicians tend to collaborate to solve proofs (really?). And with the growing globalization, they can refer to modern technology to find potential collaborators and to communicate (do they?). Software can indeed be useful to provide the respective search facilities; communication channels; and digital working spaces (including change management). Software can thus influence and change mathematical practice by opening new spaces to do math (potentially interesting for particular young mathematicians).

Message from Calculemus

Wednesday, July 30th, 2008

James Davenport’s plea for providing more insights on the proof and how one got it done and … if a computer can’t solve it, is it really not provable. Shouldn’t it rather return “I can’t solve it”?

An interesting comment wrt. to the fact that William Farmer and Alan Bundy pointed me to, that is that the way mathematicians present and illustrate a proof (in publications, books, and even lectures) is not the way we actually retrieved the proof.

And it contributes to another interesting discussion, that is whether or not trusting and accepting automatically computed proofs (see the Flyspeck project).

Message from MKM: Mathematical Exercises

Wednesday, July 30th, 2008

There are multiple solution to a mathematical exercise:

Message from MKM: Mathematical Units

Tuesday, July 29th, 2008

James Davenport gave a talk on mathematical units in OpenMath.

New to me was the discussion on whether and when CDs/ units/ notations are obsolete (e.g. out-of-date)

  • OpenMath CD is obsolete if the definition in it are for archival purposes only.
  • A unit is obsolete by formal change (e.g. liter_pre1964) and by usage.

Or to distinguish relative and absolute temperatures … for addition “abs”+”rel”=”abs” (not arith1-plus?) …

Units are also very interesting in making mathematical expressions more intuitive and context-dependent. Maybe: A renderer converting from 1.2 miles (English) to (ca.) 1,92 km (German) should also convert the units and thus needs to provide basic computations (e.g. from miles to km)?